From 4728c9e19c8fe3c81ef1c6064a3b5871a5d66fba Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Eray=20=C3=96zkural?= Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:28:26 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] the lists of the damn competition --- ...Design] Dandik Fedora'nin component treesi | 249 +++++ ...SI design] mandrake component _ group tree | 879 ++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 1128 insertions(+) create mode 100644 doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI Design] Dandik Fedora'nin component treesi create mode 100644 doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component _ group tree diff --git a/doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI Design] Dandik Fedora'nin component treesi b/doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI Design] Dandik Fedora'nin component treesi new file mode 100644 index 00000000..44118606 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI Design] Dandik Fedora'nin component treesi @@ -0,0 +1,249 @@ +From eray@uludag.org.tr Wed Sep 7 20:15:04 2005 +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Received: from liste.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4C284D16; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:15:15 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from pisi.uludag.org.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128A11878DE; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:09:27 +0300 (EEST) +X-Original-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Received: from uludag.org.tr (comar.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.220]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1AD1878D6 + for ; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:09:13 +0300 (EEST) +Received: by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) + id 56F5B908AE; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:15:02 +0300 (EEST) +Delivered-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Received: from [192.168.1.5] (unknown [85.97.87.38]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0057B84D16 + for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:15:01 +0300 (EEST) +From: Eray Ozkural +Organization: Pardus +To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:15:04 +0300 +User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Message-Id: <200509072015.04792.eray@uludag.org.tr> +Cc: +Subject: [Cekirdek] [PISI Design] Dandik Fedora'nin component treesi +X-BeenThere: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +List-Id: cekirdek.liste.uludag.org.tr +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; + boundary="===============1420878072==" +Sender: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +Errors-To: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-UID: 3643 +X-Length: 4136 + +--===============1420878072== +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="us-ascii" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Bu aslinda mandrake'ye gore biraz daha akli basinda ve daha +onemlisi component mantigina uygun bir liste, bir iki degisiklik +disinda bu listeyle baslamakta fayda var. Bir de tabii gentoo'nun +kendi listesi var, onu da gentoo'cular gonderebilir mi listeye lutfen? + +Bu dedigim gibi iki seviyeli bir tree, oldukca iyi aslinda.... sadece +dedigim gibi component/category karisimi biraz onun disinda gayet +guzel... Bir de baktim "group" demisler, group da iyi bir sozcuk aslinda +degistirmeye gerek yok degil mi component lafini? + +Saygilar, + +Desktop + X11 + GNOME + KDE +Applications + Editors + Engineering and Scientific + Graphical Internet + Text-based Internet + Office/Productivity + Sound and Video + Authoring and Publishing + Graphics + Games and Entertainment +Servers + Server Configuration Tools + Web Server + Mail Server + Windows File Server + DNS Name Server + FTP Server + PostgreSQL Database + MySQL Database + News Server + Network Servers + Legacy Network Server +Development + Development Tools + X Software Development + GNOME "" + KDE "" + Legacy "" + Java Development + Eclipse +System + Language Support (includes fonts and input methods) + Administration Tools + System Tools + Printing Support + +-- +Eray Ozkural (exa), Uludag Gelistiricisi +http://cekirdek.uludag.org.tr/~eray http://www.kde.org +http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo http://www.malfunct.com + +--===============1420878072== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +Cekirdek mailing list +Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek + +--===============1420878072==-- + +From gurer@uludag.org.tr Wed Sep 7 22:04:45 2005 +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Received: from liste.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FBF380AA; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:04:23 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from pisi.uludag.org.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEDB1878F8; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 21:58:34 +0300 (EEST) +X-Original-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Received: from uludag.org.tr (comar.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.220]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC0E159028 + for ; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 21:58:32 +0300 (EEST) +Received: by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) + id 5EB758654F; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:04:21 +0300 (EEST) +Delivered-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Received: from cable73-96.anadolu.kablonet.com.tr (unknown [195.174.73.96]) + (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92BD380AA + for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:04:20 +0300 (EEST) +From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCrer_=D6zen?= +To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +In-Reply-To: <200509072015.04792.eray@uludag.org.tr> +References: <200509072015.04792.eray@uludag.org.tr> +Organization: TUBITAK - UEKAE +Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:04:45 +0300 +Message-Id: <1126119885.10981.13.camel@localhost> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 +Cc: +Subject: [Cekirdek] component hadisesi +X-BeenThere: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +List-Id: cekirdek.liste.uludag.org.tr +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; + boundary="===============1294830247==" +Sender: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +Errors-To: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-UID: 3648 +X-Length: 4903 + +--===============1294830247== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit + +Kanalda meren, exa, çağlar, ben biraz fikir teatisinde bulunduk. Teati +dedim de çay çekti canım. Özetlen: + +Component bir görev için bir araya gelmiş ve görevin ayrı parçalarını +yapan paketler dedik. Kullanım amacı kullanıcının bir alt sistemi (kde, +tex) bir hamlede kurabilmesini sağlamak, gerektiğinde dependency olarak +kullanılmak. + +Aynı işi yapan farklı programların bir grubu (library, editor, archiver, +vs) kesinlikle component olmuyor. + +Temel olarak iki tipi var: + +KDE (kicker, kwm, kdm, kopete, vs) +burda aynı koddan türemiş ve bize masaüstü sağlayan paketlerin bir +componenti var. + +Base (kernel, grub, libc, bash, vs) +burda ayrı kodlardan gelen ve bize açılıp çalışabilen bir sistem +sağlayan paketlerin bir componenti var. + +Aynı paket birden fazla componente dahil olmuyor, bu component değil +bağımlılık ilişkisi. Örnek: +libxml2 is a part of Gnome +kopete (a partof KDE) depends on libxml2 (bunu uydurdum, kopete +libxml2 kullanmıyor olabilir) + +Yani componenti *asıl* olarak kod ilişkisi belirliyor, ama örneğin base +paketinde direk kod ilişkisi yoksa da, birbirleriyle çok içiçe iş yapan +programları bir component altında grupladık. İkincil kriter birlikte +çalışma. + +Karma bi örnek: +Tex componenti içinde aynı koddan gelen kpathsea, tetex,vs paketleri var +diyelim, ama farklı kodu olan hevea da buraya girebilir, çünkü html +generate edebilen bir tex sistemi için gerekli. + +Hiçbir componente ait olmayan, sadece dependency ve category ilişkileri +olan paketler olabilir. Bunlar mesela other diye bi dizinde +(componentler aynı zamanda paket deposundaki dizinler, bu şart değil ama +kolaylık) tutulur. + +Componentleri hiyerarşiye koymak kötü bi fikir değil, fedoranın ana +grupları bu konuda fena değil. + +Kafa karışıklığı kalmadı sanırım. Kategorileri konuşmadık daha :) + +Bu vesileyle yavaş yavaş pisi depomuzu a/ b/ c/ lerden kurtarıp +component bazlı dizinlere geçirmeye başlayalım dedik. + + + +--===============1294830247== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +Cekirdek mailing list +Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek + +--===============1294830247==-- + diff --git a/doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component _ group tree b/doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component _ group tree new file mode 100644 index 00000000..f6edd70f --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/mails/[Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component _ group tree @@ -0,0 +1,879 @@ +From eray@uludag.org.tr Thu Jul 21 15:54:55 2005 +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Received: from liste.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351D885A97; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:55:08 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from pisi.uludag.org.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0742810A659; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:52:59 +0300 (EEST) +X-Original-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Received: from uludag.org.tr (comar.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.220]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCC10A654 + for ; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:52:56 +0300 (EEST) +Received: by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) + id 91D0C86099; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:55:05 +0300 (EEST) +Delivered-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Received: from [192.168.1.5] (unknown [85.99.19.56]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0143385A97 + for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:55:04 +0300 (EEST) +From: Eray Ozkural +Organization: Pardus +To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:54:55 +0300 +User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Message-Id: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +Cc: +Subject: [Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component / group tree +X-BeenThere: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +List-Id: cekirdek.liste.uludag.org.tr +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; + boundary="===============2130999829==" +Sender: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +Errors-To: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-UID: 1651 +X-Length: 4961 + +--===============2130999829== +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="us-ascii" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Mandrake'de "group" diye geciyor terim. Belki daha iyidir component'dan. Bu +component lafi akil mi karistiriyor diye killaniyorum hala. + +Bu arada, mandrake'nin bu olayini tam begenmedim. Tamam System'in alti +bizim dusundugumuz gibi, ama gerisi biraz daha category mantiginda, +debian'inki gibi yapilmis. Aslinda Archiving, Books, Cluster, Sciences, +Development, Networking fena degil ama bizim daha anlamli birseyler yapmamiz +gerekebilir, bu vizyonunuzu daraltmasin. Ornegin bizde OpenOffice bir +component olacak. Ya bizim componentlari en iyi python module'leri gibi +dusunun, "alt" notasyonu da bunu gostermek icin '.' olsun. + +apps.office partof apps +apps.office.openoffice partof apps.office + +openoffice-libs partof apps.office.openoffice +openoffice-bin partof apps.office.openoffice + +ornegin + +buradaki tabii ki onemli sey component hiyerarsisinin *birlikte install +edilen* adamlara ihtimam etmesi. Ornegin asagida System.Base aynen boyle, bu +da guzel birsey! + +Altlarindaki paketleri yazmiyorum. + +Mandrake Group Tree +-------------------------------- + +Accessibility +Archiving + Backup + Cd burning + Compression + Other +Books + Computer books + Howtos + Literature + Other +Cluster + Message Passing + Queueing Services +Communications +Configuration +Databases +Development + C + C++ + Databases + Debug + Gnome and GTK+ + Java + KDE and Qt + Kernel + Libraries + Other + Perl + Python +Documentation +Editors +Education +Emulators +File Tools +Games + Adventure + Arcade + Boards + Cards + Other + Puzzles + Sports + Strategy +Graphical desktop + Enlightenment + FVWM based + GNOME + Icewm + KDE + Other + Sawfish + WindowMakes + Xfce +Graphics +Monitoring +Networking + Chat + File transfer + Instant messaging + Instant Messaging + IRC + Mail + News + Other + Remote access + WWW +Office +Publishing +Sciences + Astronomy + Biology + Chemistry + Computer science + Geosciences + Mathematics + Other + Physics +System + Base + Configuration + Cryptography + Deployment + Fonts + Internationalization + Kernel and hardware + Libraries + Servers + X11 + XFree86 +Shells +Sounds +System +Terminals +Text tools +Toys +Video + +-- +Eray + +--===============2130999829== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +Cekirdek mailing list +Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek + +--===============2130999829==-- + +From serdar@uludag.org.tr Thu Jul 21 16:10:37 2005 +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Received: from liste.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6010F85F66; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:12:48 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from pisi.uludag.org.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E52910A661; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:10:39 +0300 (EEST) +X-Original-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Received: from uludag.org.tr (comar.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.220]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAA4950E8 + for ; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:10:37 +0300 (EEST) +Received: by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) + id 5ECC486095; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:12:46 +0300 (EEST) +Delivered-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Received: from webmail.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5801F86094 + for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:12:46 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from 193.140.74.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user serdar) + by webmail.uludag.org.tr with HTTP; + Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:10:37 +0300 (EEST) +Message-ID: <51672.193.140.74.2.1121951437.squirrel@webmail.uludag.org.tr> +In-Reply-To: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +References: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:10:37 +0300 (EEST) +Subject: Re: [Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component / group tree +From: serdar@uludag.org.tr +To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-Priority: 3 (Normal) +Importance: Normal +Cc: +X-BeenThere: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +List-Id: cekirdek.liste.uludag.org.tr +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; + boundary="===============1295726599==" +Sender: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +Errors-To: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-UID: 1655 +X-Length: 7560 + +--===============1295726599== +Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit + +Selamlar.. + +Benim görüşüm, kullanıcının karşısına ilk anda bu kadar çok +kategori çıkarsa, çabucak refüze olacağıdır. Kapsamları daraltıp, +işi 2 kademe yerine 3-4 kademeye yaymak daha kullanışlı olur +sanıyorum. + +İyi bir örnek değil ama, freshmeat.net'te ki kategorilere bir bakabiliriz. + +# Adaptive Technologies (51 projects) +# Artistic Software (165 projects) +# Communications (5684 projects) +# Database (2022 projects) +# Desktop Environment (2373 projects) +# Documentation (172 projects) +# Education (896 projects) +# freshmeat.net (28 projects) +# Games/Entertainment (2720 projects) +# Home Automation (80 projects) +# Information Management (1259 projects) +# Internet (10220 projects) +# Multimedia (6251 projects) +# Office/Business (2066 projects) +# Other/Nonlisted Topic (261 projects) +# Printing (227 projects) +# Religion (50 projects) +# Scientific/Engineering (2705 projects) +# Security (1591 projects) +# Software Development (10758 projects) +# System (10314 projects) +# Terminals (321 projects) +# Text Editors (647 projects) +# Text Processing (2416 projects) +# Utilities (3056 projects) + +Bu listeden çıkarılabilecek bir sürü şey olabilir. Hatta minor +şeyler birleştirilip bir alt seviyede detaylandırılabilir. Freshmeat +bunları upuzun uzatıyor, böylece aradığını bulmak daha kolay +oluyor. + +Yukarıdaki liste çok uygun değil. Örneğin, Text Editors ile Office +ayrımı çoğu için anlam ifade etmez. Database ile +development/business'in ayrık durması da anlamsız bence, Databases +development ve belki business altında listlenebilir. + +Liste ne kadar uzun olursa, o kadar bıkkınlık verici olacaktır +sanıyorum. Bu yüzden de laf gelimi, her kademede en fazla 10 girdi +olacak şekilde daha derin listeler hazırlanmasının faydalı +olacağını düşünüyorum.. + +Saygı ve sevgiler.. + +> Mandrake'de "group" diye geciyor terim. Belki daha iyidir component'dan. +> Bu +> component lafi akil mi karistiriyor diye killaniyorum hala. +> +> Bu arada, mandrake'nin bu olayini tam begenmedim. Tamam System'in alti +> bizim dusundugumuz gibi, ama gerisi biraz daha category mantiginda, +> debian'inki gibi yapilmis. Aslinda Archiving, Books, Cluster, Sciences, +> Development, Networking fena degil ama bizim daha anlamli birseyler +> yapmamiz +> gerekebilir, bu vizyonunuzu daraltmasin. Ornegin bizde OpenOffice bir +> component olacak. Ya bizim componentlari en iyi python module'leri gibi +> dusunun, "alt" notasyonu da bunu gostermek icin '.' olsun. +> +> apps.office partof apps +> apps.office.openoffice partof apps.office +> +> openoffice-libs partof apps.office.openoffice +> openoffice-bin partof apps.office.openoffice +> +> ornegin +> +> buradaki tabii ki onemli sey component hiyerarsisinin *birlikte install +> edilen* adamlara ihtimam etmesi. Ornegin asagida System.Base aynen boyle, +> bu +> da guzel birsey! +> +> Altlarindaki paketleri yazmiyorum. +> +> Mandrake Group Tree +> -------------------------------- +> +> Accessibility +> Archiving +> Backup +> Cd burning +> Compression +> Other +> Books +> Computer books +> Howtos +> Literature +> Other +> Cluster +> Message Passing +> Queueing Services +> Communications +> Configuration +> Databases +> Development +> C +> C++ +> Databases +> Debug +> Gnome and GTK+ +> Java +> KDE and Qt +> Kernel +> Libraries +> Other +> Perl +> Python +> Documentation +> Editors +> Education +> Emulators +> File Tools +> Games +> Adventure +> Arcade +> Boards +> Cards +> Other +> Puzzles +> Sports +> Strategy +> Graphical desktop +> Enlightenment +> FVWM based +> GNOME +> Icewm +> KDE +> Other +> Sawfish +> WindowMakes +> Xfce +> Graphics +> Monitoring +> Networking +> Chat +> File transfer +> Instant messaging +> Instant Messaging +> IRC +> Mail +> News +> Other +> Remote access +> WWW +> Office +> Publishing +> Sciences +> Astronomy +> Biology +> Chemistry +> Computer science +> Geosciences +> Mathematics +> Other +> Physics +> System +> Base +> Configuration +> Cryptography +> Deployment +> Fonts +> Internationalization +> Kernel and hardware +> Libraries +> Servers +> X11 +> XFree86 +> Shells +> Sounds +> System +> Terminals +> Text tools +> Toys +> Video +> +> -- +> Eray +> _______________________________________________ +> Cekirdek mailing list +> Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +> http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek +> + + + +--===============1295726599== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +Cekirdek mailing list +Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek + +--===============1295726599==-- + +From eray@uludag.org.tr Wed Jul 27 13:02:17 2005 +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Received: from liste.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABE08584B; + Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:02:30 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from pisi.uludag.org.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF71E558D; + Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:59:53 +0300 (EEST) +X-Original-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Received: from uludag.org.tr (comar.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.220]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF155E558D + for ; + Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:59:52 +0300 (EEST) +Received: by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) + id 0B4998584E; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:02:29 +0300 (EEST) +Delivered-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Received: from [192.168.1.5] (unknown [85.99.19.56]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719658584B + for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:02:28 +0300 (EEST) +From: Eray Ozkural +Organization: Pardus +To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Subject: Re: [Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component / group tree +Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:02:17 +0300 +User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 +References: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +In-Reply-To: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Message-Id: <200507271302.17641.eray@uludag.org.tr> +Cc: +X-BeenThere: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +List-Id: cekirdek.liste.uludag.org.tr +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; + boundary="===============2058226043==" +Sender: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +Errors-To: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-UID: 1835 +X-Length: 5701 + +--===============2058226043== +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="iso-8859-1" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Buna bakip dusundunuz mu? Bakiniz, mandrake'nin daha cok kategorik +bir ayrim, cok component mantigina uymuyor. Fedora daha uygun aslinda ama o da +cok basit yararli olmak icin. + +On Thursday 21 July 2005 03:54 pm, Eray Ozkural wrote: +> Mandrake'de "group" diye geciyor terim. Belki daha iyidir component'dan. Bu +> component lafi akil mi karistiriyor diye killaniyorum hala. +> +> Bu arada, mandrake'nin bu olayini tam begenmedim. Tamam System'in alti +> bizim dusundugumuz gibi, ama gerisi biraz daha category mantiginda, +> debian'inki gibi yapilmis. Aslinda Archiving, Books, Cluster, Sciences, +> Development, Networking fena degil ama bizim daha anlamli birseyler +> yapmamiz gerekebilir, bu vizyonunuzu daraltmasin. Ornegin bizde OpenOffice +> bir component olacak. Ya bizim componentlari en iyi python module'leri gibi +> dusunun, "alt" notasyonu da bunu gostermek icin '.' olsun. +> +> apps.office partof apps +> apps.office.openoffice partof apps.office +> +> openoffice-libs partof apps.office.openoffice +> openoffice-bin partof apps.office.openoffice +> +> ornegin +> +> buradaki tabii ki onemli sey component hiyerarsisinin *birlikte install +> edilen* adamlara ihtimam etmesi. Ornegin asagida System.Base aynen boyle, +> bu da guzel birsey! +> +> Altlarindaki paketleri yazmiyorum. +> +> Mandrake Group Tree +> -------------------------------- +> +> Accessibility +> Archiving +> Backup +> Cd burning +> Compression +> Other +> Books +> Computer books +> Howtos +> Literature +> Other +> Cluster +> Message Passing +> Queueing Services +> Communications +> Configuration +> Databases +> Development +> C +> C++ +> Databases +> Debug +> Gnome and GTK+ +> Java +> KDE and Qt +> Kernel +> Libraries +> Other +> Perl +> Python +> Documentation +> Editors +> Education +> Emulators +> File Tools +> Games +> Adventure +> Arcade +> Boards +> Cards +> Other +> Puzzles +> Sports +> Strategy +> Graphical desktop +> Enlightenment +> FVWM based +> GNOME +> Icewm +> KDE +> Other +> Sawfish +> WindowMakes +> Xfce +> Graphics +> Monitoring +> Networking +> Chat +> File transfer +> Instant messaging +> Instant Messaging +> IRC +> Mail +> News +> Other +> Remote access +> WWW +> Office +> Publishing +> Sciences +> Astronomy +> Biology +> Chemistry +> Computer science +> Geosciences +> Mathematics +> Other +> Physics +> System +> Base +> Configuration +> Cryptography +> Deployment +> Fonts +> Internationalization +> Kernel and hardware +> Libraries +> Servers +> X11 +> XFree86 +> Shells +> Sounds +> System +> Terminals +> Text tools +> Toys +> Video + +-- +Eray Ozkural (exa), Uludag Gelistiricisi +http://cekirdek.uludag.org.tr/~eray http://www.kde.org +http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo http://www.malfunct.com + +--===============2058226043== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +Cekirdek mailing list +Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek + +--===============2058226043==-- + +From eray@uludag.org.tr Wed Sep 7 20:05:53 2005 +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: eray@uludag.org.tr +Received: from liste.uludag.org.tr (pisi.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.210]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2A084F4B; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:06:04 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from pisi.uludag.org.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086A718789A; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:00:16 +0300 (EEST) +X-Original-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Delivered-To: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +Received: from uludag.org.tr (comar.uludag.org.tr [193.140.100.220]) + by liste.uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F039818789A + for ; + Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:00:02 +0300 (EEST) +Received: by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) + id 401CE8F9B9; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:05:51 +0300 (EEST) +Delivered-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Received: from [192.168.1.5] (unknown [85.97.87.38]) + by uludag.org.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EC084F4B + for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:05:50 +0300 (EEST) +From: Eray Ozkural +Organization: Pardus +To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +Subject: Re: [Cekirdek] [PISI design] mandrake component / group tree +Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:05:53 +0300 +User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 +References: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +In-Reply-To: <200507211554.55602.eray@uludag.org.tr> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Message-Id: <200509072005.53482.eray@uludag.org.tr> +Cc: +X-BeenThere: cekirdek@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +List-Id: cekirdek.liste.uludag.org.tr +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; + boundary="===============1083705676==" +Sender: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +Errors-To: cekirdek-bounces@liste.uludag.org.tr +X-UID: 3642 +X-Length: 5765 + +--===============1083705676== +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="iso-8859-1" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +bunu gormus muydunuz? + +genelde iki seviye ana component'lari belirtmek icin yeterli +mandrake'nin kafasinin karismasi icin kategorilerle componentlari +karismasi yeterli olmus, yani asagidaki bircok sey aslinda component +*degil* kategori. + +On Thursday 21 July 2005 03:54 pm, Eray Ozkural wrote: +> Mandrake'de "group" diye geciyor terim. Belki daha iyidir component'dan. Bu +> component lafi akil mi karistiriyor diye killaniyorum hala. +> +> Bu arada, mandrake'nin bu olayini tam begenmedim. Tamam System'in alti +> bizim dusundugumuz gibi, ama gerisi biraz daha category mantiginda, +> debian'inki gibi yapilmis. Aslinda Archiving, Books, Cluster, Sciences, +> Development, Networking fena degil ama bizim daha anlamli birseyler +> yapmamiz gerekebilir, bu vizyonunuzu daraltmasin. Ornegin bizde OpenOffice +> bir component olacak. Ya bizim componentlari en iyi python module'leri gibi +> dusunun, "alt" notasyonu da bunu gostermek icin '.' olsun. +> +> apps.office partof apps +> apps.office.openoffice partof apps.office +> +> openoffice-libs partof apps.office.openoffice +> openoffice-bin partof apps.office.openoffice +> +> ornegin +> +> buradaki tabii ki onemli sey component hiyerarsisinin *birlikte install +> edilen* adamlara ihtimam etmesi. Ornegin asagida System.Base aynen boyle, +> bu da guzel birsey! +> +> Altlarindaki paketleri yazmiyorum. +> +> Mandrake Group Tree +> -------------------------------- +> +> Accessibility +> Archiving +> Backup +> Cd burning +> Compression +> Other +> Books +> Computer books +> Howtos +> Literature +> Other +> Cluster +> Message Passing +> Queueing Services +> Communications +> Configuration +> Databases +> Development +> C +> C++ +> Databases +> Debug +> Gnome and GTK+ +> Java +> KDE and Qt +> Kernel +> Libraries +> Other +> Perl +> Python +> Documentation +> Editors +> Education +> Emulators +> File Tools +> Games +> Adventure +> Arcade +> Boards +> Cards +> Other +> Puzzles +> Sports +> Strategy +> Graphical desktop +> Enlightenment +> FVWM based +> GNOME +> Icewm +> KDE +> Other +> Sawfish +> WindowMakes +> Xfce +> Graphics +> Monitoring +> Networking +> Chat +> File transfer +> Instant messaging +> Instant Messaging +> IRC +> Mail +> News +> Other +> Remote access +> WWW +> Office +> Publishing +> Sciences +> Astronomy +> Biology +> Chemistry +> Computer science +> Geosciences +> Mathematics +> Other +> Physics +> System +> Base +> Configuration +> Cryptography +> Deployment +> Fonts +> Internationalization +> Kernel and hardware +> Libraries +> Servers +> X11 +> XFree86 +> Shells +> Sounds +> System +> Terminals +> Text tools +> Toys +> Video + +-- +Eray Ozkural (exa), Uludag Gelistiricisi +http://cekirdek.uludag.org.tr/~eray http://www.kde.org +http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo http://www.malfunct.com + +--===============1083705676== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +Cekirdek mailing list +Cekirdek@uludag.org.tr +http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/cekirdek + +--===============1083705676==-- +